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I am just starting GTD, and trying to setup my system, but I am confused about where/how to keep projects.

  1. Are projects stored as reference material?

  2. What about Project planning? Would this be in another set of task lists? 1 list per project. Let's say I have 3 projects, do I take the first "next action" from each project task list and bring those to my "next actions" list? Ending with a next action list looking like this

    • project A, task1 (@work)
    • project B, task1 (@work)
    • project C, task1 (@home)

thanks

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What kind of system are you setting up? Paper, electronic, hybrid ... ? –  John Aug 24 '12 at 20:53
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Your GTD system only "needs" a list of projects. It goes in whatever you are using as your list manager (paper, Evernote, Outlook Tasks, Remember The Milk, whatever).

Depending on what kind of projects you work on, some or all of your projects may have "supporting material". You might store that in with reference material, or somewhere else, again depending on what tools your implementation uses. In my case, paper artifacts go into a file cabinet that contains both reference material and supporting material for projects. But electronic artifacts are separated - my Evernote has a "GTD Project Support" notebook and a "Reference Material" notebook, for example. It just depends on what works for you.

My project planning is largely done in Evernote. My "Projects List" is the search result of finding items tagged "project" in my GTD Project Support notebook. Only projects appear on the list, and the title of the entry is the name of a project. The notes area of the note is where I do most planning (never mind details of what "most" means in this case).

What clarified Next Actions for me is the realization that a Project may have any number of Actions or Tasks associated with it, and listing those in project support material may be helpful but isn't required. But each Project has very few true Next Actions that move to a context list, in many cases only one. That Next Action (NA) is in some sense a bookmark into your Project, telling you the very next thing that needs to be done. When the time comes for the "Do" part of your productivity, pick one NA off your current context and do it. At that point, you can choose to do another NA off that list, or do the next thing in that project, or something else entirely.

GTD doesn't prescribe how you Do, it helps you organize what needs to be done.

See several of the GTD project questions off on the right hand sidebar. They may help clarify things for you.

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I have battled with this question of projects also, but my understanding is that project names/titles are all that is stored on a Projects List. (This is a separate list than your 'next actions' list).

However, I must admit that I do NOT have a Projects list in my work system, because things just move too fast - I only want to look in one place.

I use Outlook 2010 tasks to manage this - but my method could apply to other systems as I pretty much use Outlook tasks only as a simple list. ( I don't use any of the features or fields to keep it really simple as I share it with others who don't necessarily share my delight in productivity systems and I am not a huge fan of some of the behaviours of Outlook with tasks).

So instead of a Projects list, I have it simply set up that every next action starts with the project name - so I can scan down and immediately see my projects list - in effect - as well as my next actions in one go.

Also , that forces me to put a next action against every project - no orphaned projects on a separate project list. (This is something I've heard David Allen talk about in a podcast -where they were discussing a piece of software that even goes so far as to put a frowny face against a project if it has no next action - eproductivity.com that works with Lotus Notes which I believe DA uses http://www.eproductivity.com/dx/podcast)

So my list looks pretty much as you described

  • project A, next action (@context)
  • project B, next action (@context)
  • project C, next action (@context)

i.e. this is what I see when I scan down the 'subject' line of the tasks

Reference material for the project is stored in our reference files not with the next action.

At work all filing is based around dividing things up by client name. (I guess this is common in professional services firms) so I generally make the client name act as the project name - or client name plus one or two words if my team are doing multiple projects at once for the client.

This still leaves the question of how to deal with items which are actions - not reference - but which are NOT "NEXT actions".

There are a couple of ways I deal with this issue and it really depends on the complexity of the project:

  • Using Outlook task lists there is a 'notes' section for each task. This does not show in list view only if you drill down on that task.

    If the project is of medium complexity, then I put my 'future' next actions here in a list here. It works as it does not distract in the list view.

    It's usually just a reminder list not a comprehensive plan and I may revisit it at weekly review or when I complete a next action.

    (I don't think Outlook is at all unique here - I think most software that allows a list like this , also has a drill down to a note attached to the item line in the list - to give further info. So you could hopefully use this method in most systems.)

    Anyhow, the key thing then is that when I complete a next action I can just copy and paste the following next action from the notes attached to this task line, into the subject of the task line - overwriting the previous next action to bring it up to date.

    (The other advantage of this is I can also keep a history of what's been done on that project in the notes section by leaving the copy of the old actions in the notes. At the end of the project we then archive these notes to the client reference filing so we have a record of what happened in stages if we wish).

OR

  • If it's a complicated project that needs detailed planning, I will draw up a list of actions and a proper plan and store this in the reference filing for the project.

    The next action will have the actual next action listed, and the notes will have a reminder in it to look at the detailed project plan

    • and possibly a hyperlink that I can click on to take me straight to the location of the reference files on our server to save time.

Or

  • If it's a really simple project - with may be only 2 or 3 total actions to complete - I use a greater than symbol ">" to show one next action immmediately follows the next and both actions in the task line

    eg task looks like this: Projectname , action1 > action2 @context

    eg stack exchange answers, type answer > publish answer @pc

I'm not sure that my systems is 100% GTD but it works for us so far and I think that everyone has to do what works without losing the key aspects of the system.

(BTW we also use contexts in a slightly different way because a large proportion of what my team does is @pc or @phone so contexts like that would be a bit meaningless for us).

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Bear in mind that each project might have many next actions...

My understanding is that GTD only requires you to have a list of projects that you can refer to - so I guess that could be in your refrence material if you liked. Personally I find just having a list a bit restrictive, so I have a folder in dropbox called 'project logs', which contains a text file for each project I currently have active. At least once a week I go though the directory and update the logs, pulling out any next actions that I can see.

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